Bet you $20 you learned that from Metal Gear Solid. :wacko: Fit women do make better assassins, but that's not what we're talking about here. :PQuote:
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Bet you $20 you learned that from Metal Gear Solid. :wacko: Fit women do make better assassins, but that's not what we're talking about here. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by The Watcher
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Originally Posted by Soeru
I read it somewhere before i had MGS its true thou they can wait for days and they dont move cos they dont need to scrach their ass :PQuote:
Originally Posted by jace
but it really is true there is a web site on it somewhere try www.google.com
i only said it cos Jace said that chicks shouldnt be in the army man his such a top's bloke
Edit: he-man rocks all the way �_�
Men have pecs... :P
I learned that by touching myself... :O!
But no, really, women are more agile than men, though I fail to see what would make them better assassins... Men are physically stronger (again: pecs)... Couple that with kick-ass martial arts training, an iron will and fire weapons know-how and you've got yourself the best assassin in the world...!!
Though women are no slouch either... Just don't mess with them during that time of the month... (OMG!! This is SO cliche!! :O! )
Don't know about snipers, but they are better at shooting than men, due to patience and being able to refrain from tensing up as much. At least this is what all my drill sergeants said in basic training.Quote:
Isnt it true that chicks make the best snipers?
sorry to post again but I just read back from where I left off yesterday, I didnt realize so many people posted between my last post and this one.
Actually, females in the military are no more distracting that any other workplace. Believe me, I know, since I am in the military. Also, in combat, all sexual urges pretty much go out the window. It's a matter of survival. It's act first, think later kinda thing. So I don't think it would be too much to ask for them to be infantry. At least women would get the same training (hopefully) as men and issues like what happened to jessica Lynch and company, wouldn't happen. Maybe if they were allowed to train for combat like men, they would have kept their weapons clean because they would have known that it could happen that they would be attacked. Now females pretty much think they are safe from combat, it's just not so anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
Women in the military do not work. You are paying for many women getting pregnant with people that � ass know. Instead of defending their country they are out within the first few weeks getting defended by their country again and you are paying for the women�s misguided actions. It distracts the men as well. Tax payer�s money goes to good use. If you think that�s it then go to the military when you are married with your wife have a kid and let us pay for it.
Thanks I wanted to pay more taxes for silly things. NOT
You think you have facts but I showed links that show statistics that no one cared to see then say I and wrong without having any proof to back yourself up? Hey I reply with links that show statistic facts and no one does the same. If you want me to show more and quote more to disprove what some said here you go.
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/200.../04-05-19.html
"female GI enjoying the sexual humiliation of naked, hooded Iraqi prisoners... why were female GIs assigned to guard male prisoners anyway?";)
"gender-norming, the deceitful practice of scoring women higher than men for the same performance and then pretending that women are performing equally." This is kind of like affirmative action to qualify people that are not qualified. also the same person that wanted that also said affirmative action for women for ex-integration of prisons.
"critical diversion of time and energy away from the essential task of teaching men to be soldiers into dealing with the obvious problems caused by the powerful factor of sex when lonely, scared young men and women are crowded together in an environment where moral standards have been abandoned."
"don't ask don't tell... also is that commanders' eyes are diverted away from all kinds of sexual misconduct"
Read the article that counters your arguments in every way. It says over 10 times more arguments the shows that it is not ok. Women in the military are a failure. Some reply to what I said read the article. Attacking me to prove your argument wrong is not a way to go about showing the facts. Don�t believe everything positive that everything can work out since many want you to believe that all is fine when it is not.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/women/barrett.html
Also "pregnancy rate as high as one in three. That's nearly 8,423 women, or enough to crew almost two aircraft carriers." as you see it is not worth and there is more bad than good. We as tax payers are paying for all these healthcare costs associated with these pregnant soldiers.
You have to weight your options." Maybe I should have an add saying if you want kids for free to join the military ;) Well the military is being abused, and what is happening is making the enemies wishes come true for our military to be this disorganized. A pregnancy in the military is considered an "unplanned loss",
and replacements are very hard to come by which weakens the military.
You think they say this in the liberal media? lol Information is hidden so that people push their view more and vote for their view when you are not informed. Many know that colleges are very liberal and are failing in many ways with bad courses like feminism but in general colleges are failing to truly educate. http://www.johnlocke.org/news_column...y.html?id=1838
Also someone has to take care of the country while the soldiers are away. Maybe if we have all the women fight and the men do the work at home then that would be ok since many feel that both sexes are physically equal. Remember women's role in WW2 which men did there role and women did there's. Also women in the military mean higher taxes, and the articles show 8,423 reasons more why it is not good.
I hope some get it.
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Eagle Forum exposes the radical feminists
We honor the institution of marriage and the role of the fulltime homemaker.
Eagle Forum successfully led the ten-year battle to defeat the misnamed Equal Rights Amendment with its hidden agenda of tax-funded abortions and same-sex marriages.
Damned good job you keep doing finding reliable, objective sources, jace.Quote:
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I don't need to counter this shit.
Quite possibly Skinner's greatest post ever. Of course, that's easy to say when he only has one good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziegfried
Feminism, even radical feminism isn't really a problem.... for me at least. I can ignore them, I can be abrasive towards them, I can deal with it, whatever I wish to do. They don't have any power over me... I have nothing to fear. Get real. Sometimes, bad groups do come to real power.... but this won't be one of them. Post all the links of biased sources you wish, they do nothing to counter real life experiences.
A winner is totally you. Good observation there. Though, this kind of tripe is par for the course as far as Jace is concerned. He just finds these articles on the web, and while he likely doesn't even attempt to understand them as he reads them, he passes them off as if they're the end all of whatever conversation he's participating in nontheless. And if he actually does understand just what it is he's posting, then I fear that he's the most idiotic member to sign up on these boards since King Zora...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziegfried
LUNCH BOOKS!!!!!!!!!1111111OENQuote:
Originally Posted by Cyberxion
That was pure comedy gold. :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziegfried
Ah, I kinda miss those days, in which you and I would routinely put that shithead in his place as he made attempt after lame attempt to insult us....
The religious site got its info from http://www.sftt.org/ �soldiers for the truth�.
hey I presented stats and facts which you can look it up on other sources. Show me your statistical facts, which I would like to see. No one has given any "solid" evidence to dispute it. Say what you will but more evidence that shows that women in the military are not a good thing �overall�.
Like Jack Nicholson said �you can�t handle the truth�, which many try to dispute it with opinion and attacks.
I would like to see some facts disputing the evidence that I provided, hey I like a challenge since that way we both learn something. :)
Ps. Someone has to defend the other side. If this was a court I would most likely win since I have more statistical evidence presented. ;)
You do have a valid point that we do not have statistics that go against your arguments... but here's the thing about 'statistics': torture them long enough, and they will say anything you want. We aren't going to bother to find sites biased the other way... and even if we did, you would just give us the same arguments we give you. I don't much care for statistics whatsoever.... raw data can often be better. Have you ever watched (American) football? Teams can dominate the statistics of a game.... and still lose. Take the St. Louis Rams for example... Marc Bulger, throwing for a mere 305 yards a game..... the team is 1-2 so far. Marshall Faulk averaging 4.2 yards/attempt.... at that rate, the Rams will never not get a first down. Statistics mean very little to me, and hence I give your arguments no base. Even in football, I prefer to watch a team play before I cast judgement on them based on so called 'statistics;' this is no different, I prefer to deal with real life experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
Have you ever wondered what if you are wrong? Or is that impossible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Smith
You ask for real life experiences you have also have not answered if you want to pay for so many pregnancies in the military. If you want real life then look at history in how performance was better 50 years ago on many sectors. Evidence is all around.
Let�s do thing mathematically and you put down all your experience in what you gathered about women in military and I put mine and we can see which ones outweighs the other more. In a court of law, in science, in math, in theology it would ask for what I am asking and would not validate what many have said against my arguments.
Again what if you are wrong? How can you change your view if you do not want to listen to the other? I know that no one wants to be wrong and get mad when they can not show proof to validate their arguments, which is why some attack.
PS. One of my top classes in college was about analytical debating where you had to show evidence from over 12 sources to back my research with 30 pages of explanations. I did well since the trick is to know your opponents arguments better than my opponent.
God, this is torturing me... :ugh:
Well put Smith. :nod:
That Jace would suggest that all counter-points to his arguments are invalid simply because they do not offer up statistics is rather asinine. A well made point stands on it's own merits, and is not dependant on wether or not it has a bunch of arbitrary stats to back it up.
I'd say that in the several threads this fellow has started, he's been taken to the mat everytime, and stats be damned. And yet he constantly calls for us to give stats that refute his, which tend to be rather biased anyway....
EDIT: Jace, I would counter your question with the same. Have you ever considered that you might be wrong? I don't think it's crossed your mind, has it? You press your arguments on us all, even after being offered totally legitimate counterpoints to them, and suggest that they aren't valid unless backed up with some statistics. This is even after having your sources pointed out to you as being rather biased, and as such not exactly reliable. One in your position would be wise to admit that maybe, just maybe, his ideals on the matter aren't the popular ones at the very least, and bow out. There's really nowhere else to go with this argument that you haven't already gone, and certainly nowhere that's going to change anyone's mind, or turn this argument suddenly in your favor....
And if this was a forum, we'd all be walking away from you, thinking you're just a hard-headed, ignorant fool who sees what you want to see, and that countering your so-called arguments wouldn't be worth the miniscule trouble. Oh fucking noes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
LOL If you become a lawyers you will be singing a new tune. You can not go to court with opinions or else your opinions will be laughed at. It may work for a forum to pick and choose points and throw opinions as facts, but in the "real world" tactics that are used here by many not stand up. you have to go with the real word way of how things are and not by wishful thinking, opinions, and attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyberxion
Many have the right to believe the wrong view and not listen to what is right, and many are paying for it with their pockets and complain that they pay even though they kept asking for it.
good luck
ps.Zieg I did read but you are not being open minded.
Read my last post in this thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
This is coming from the guy who picks and chooses stats that only present a one-sided view of the argument at hand. If you were being fair, you would draw from a wide variety of statistics that accurately represent both sides of the issue, rather then drawing them solely from biased sources. Zigfried pointed that out and you're yet to acknowledge it, I might add.Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
Look guy, if you come to the table with more then what you've brought thus far, then maybe people will be willing to entertain the notion that you just might be onto something. As it stands, you're not doing much aside from annoying the shit out of everyone with biased sources, the claims that we're attacking you, and the suggestion that we're living outside of the real world just because we don't subscribe to your way of thinking.
If anyone needs to get a fucking wake-up call and accept that invite to reality, it's you man. Good luck with that.
Heh, I'll have to keep this in mind next time the guy decides to respond....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziegfried
OHNOES!!!!
Fellows, I have seen the error of my ways.
We MUST CRUSH FEMINISM!!!! It is clear to me that it is the single greatest threat ever in this world. Pregnant women in the military.... we CANNOT have that!!!!!
Check this out.... the whole blurb from the site,
"Pregnancy
Psst. Did you hear that the infamous PFC Lynndie R. England is pregnant? And so are thousands of less famous service women in all branches, especially the Army and Marines. Please tell me what�s going on in your outfit. I�ve been getting serious stonewalling from the PAO folks at the Pentagon. They treat pregnancy stats with a higher security classification then the number of nukes in their arsenals. Am told they have no stats on pregnancy and they suggest it is not a big problem. This is totally opposite of what hundreds of troops have reported to me. If you can get your hands on some hard stats for your unit, please send �em along. Have the stats for the 101st Airborne and 3d Mech and they�re mind boggling."
Strange how these 'females' can become 'pregnant.' Must be through some sort of cult ritual.... some kind of bloodletting once they enter this 'military.' Men, however, can handle it, WITH NO RISK OF BECOMING PREGNANT!!!! This, my friends, is it! No women in the military. This pregnancy disease must be stopped.
Yea, uh, ok.
So, who knew humans were sexual beings? 6 billion of us around... go figure. I like how that blurb didn't link to anything... just his email. He was asking other people for data.... yea, big item you found there! And what makes this source credible? In a court of law, you have to establish some crediblility... ever heard of the term 'expert witness?' Who is this guy? Anyone? Some 60 bitter Communist angry at everything America and women do? Some 80 year old senile person... posting things for fun? Don't think I'm going to be suckered into clicking on any of your other glorious links, until you show me something decent. A few pictures of a few women doing terrible things and you think you have won the world. No, there are men commiting those acts too, and on the whole, they are a drop in the bucket. And the Iraqi's do the same, if not, much worse. Oh, and the blurb, SHOCKING the Pentagon doesn't freely give away information. Oh hey, if I ever work there, I will have a public website, with clearly labelled directories: "D-Day Invasion Plans," "Nuclear Weapons Programs and their technology," "How the country can continue to survive in the face of ignoring all the threats jace is clearly warning us about that will inevitably cause the destruction of the world, if not the entire universe," etc etc. Then everyone can know all about everything... oh wait, you will just accuse people of hiding more things. Here's a bold statement, you sir, are paranoid. I could continue this rant for quite a while.... but I have things to do. If I didn't have things to do, I might even look for some 'statistics' to counter your arguments.
And yes, I have considered that I may be wrong. In fact, I admit it all the time. Not this time, however. Not yet, at least.
But I'd also like to point out you didn't say a thing about how I went on about how statistics can be misleading.... And I gave some statistics there.
Put that "horny over paragraphs" quote back in your signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Smith
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Originally Posted by jace
1 First people say nothing is wrong with women in the military, I show it�s not totally true since it is debatable. Some can not reply to the basic non hidden facts I presented and turn a blind eye. You know you are paying more in taxes, you know things costs more, you know divorce rates are high, you know are paying for women that get present in the military, standards in the military have to be dulled down so that women can do it, books have to present facts or else they will be categorized as non fiction, women in the military are distracting men in the military, etc. It�s all nice and well to see everything as good and equal but people have to see the reality that this does not work.
2 The sources were not biased, and for many biased means something that does not agree with them. I showed a site that one site got the info from which was a neutral source. Then you still complain but here is another one from someone that�s says she supports women in military but says its wrong how it is now. http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=16609
3 to bring more to the table wont matter since many will not agree even though I gave many reasons. These arguments I presented come from people that know the issues far better than all of us here. What next you will put your head in the microwave since you do not want to listen to people that researched it and know it better? I disputed many arguments on the last post, and given you evidence you wanted and still you do not want to see it.
4 expert witness some say lol the women that wrote the book I presented knows the info and is an expert since that�s her job to research it, has a law degree, and the info she presented can not be biased since it has to be proven that her research is facts and not fiction or else. Many here think that the Da Vinci Code is non fiction but that is actually fiction. Books have to get proven before published. I do not understand how many think society works but it is scary how many think and distort truth information sometimes.
A link from random http://www.militarywoman.org/academic.htm (researched and validated information)This site supports you in a way. lol There are rules to follow when researching which I see many do not know them in what they say and just use colorful replies.
5 yes stats can be wrong but government stats do not go with the same stats as civilian stats since these are government records.
6 You do not have to look at stats if you don't believe it look at history from how it was and now. Which everyone can say an opinion but can not escape the there is more negative consequences than positive.
7 You �do not have to believe me�, you can look for yourself. ;) Like I said before if you have 10 reasons why your arguments are good then show another 10 that goes against it. Look on GOOGLE and type the key words and you will find info against the arguments of women in the military.
8 No one could answer the last post about feminism and I disputed the arguments. The fact is no one wants to hear the other site even though it might be the truth. I deliver what you want but every time I answer you come up with another excuse and then ignore the past facts. Obviously many here will not change there view.
9 every time I dispute another excuse emerges so if you want to show you want the truth go fine information online or buy the book that I mentioned. ;) Many are saying things of hot air with no substance, I may look impressive to some people that do not get it, and some see it as hot air. Show some substance then can talk again. ;)
10 all I hear are opinions, opinions, opinions vs many facts. How many opinions equal 1 fact? The answer is zero, so 0 times 10 opinions = 0, but 10 facts times= 10 facts. Any math majors here? Next person should show a list of pos and cons about women in the military in what was presented and weight them. Have fun paying for higher taxes.
This reminds me of the Simpson�s when the dance teacher says to Lisa about equality in that if everyone was equal we would be communists. Lol This is boring next topic.
Who here thinks there should be a "forum idiot" rank?
Maybe they put wemon in the army so the breed with the males to make some sort of super soldier you never know
my facts lol well they seem to be one sided telll you what how bout you did up some of that but for us deal good its settledQuote:
10 all I hear are opinions, opinions, opinions vs many facts. How many opinions equal 1 fact? The answer is zero, so 0 times 10 opinions = 0, but 10 facts times= 10 facts. Any math majors here? Next person should show a list of pos and cons about women in the military in what was presented and weight them. Have fun paying for higher taxes.
hate to tell you but i dont think many people would of read itQuote:
8 No one could answer the last post about feminism and I disputed the arguments. The fact is no one wants to hear the other site even though it might be the truth. I deliver what you want but every time I answer you come up with another excuse and then ignore the past facts. Obviously many here will not change there view.
and Deach Yes i think that would be nice
I even made an avatar.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...tled-2copy.gif
jace, a friend of mine says (after reading the thread) :
"I don't have the ability post yet... but you should ask him if he even has an opinion of his own... he only seems to be able to acquire others opinions and use them as his..."
Do you have your own opinions?
And hey, I'd like to point out that I wasn't totally for women in the military. I said I didn't want women in the draft, but the willing ones can usually be beneficial. I consented that there are differences between the sexes, and that we should acount for them when applicable. However, I think not allowing women period is an exploitation of the difference in the sexes... there are women who are capable of handling the duties of the military. And they should be denied the oppurtunity to serve because they were born a female? Yes, there should be qualifications to get in, and those who fail, should not be allowed. The qualifications aren't going to get dumbed down so low that anyone can get in and do whatever they want.... there are still things that need to be done. It seems to me that the military would fall apart entirely if that were the case. Common sense. A military that consisted of non-working goofballs probably couldn't walk all over Iraq like we did. And while I don't have a website that says "OMG USA PWNT IRAQ with teh l33t hax!!!" or whatever, that should be obvious enough. Also, realize with the rise in technology, the physical demands become less and less important in the military, whereas technical demands are rising. And women can definitely handle the technical work.
As goes for tax money.... well, a lot of tax money is being wasted in a lot of places. Still one of the richest nations in the world. I'll take that as a blessing, let's not get too greedy now, shall we? Almost any system can get exploited, on a scale as large as this nation.
And history? You want to start a history discussion? Good show! WWII, I could talk for days.... too bad now is not the time.
Thank you for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Smith
Feminism is good and bad. It's good because people should obviously be treated as having the equal right to freedom/etc, but bad because the sexes are biologically designed to have different roles. The problem is that women who demand to be treated as equals also tend to desire to be treated differently.
I was raised in an "old-fashioned" manner and have all the mannerisms that men were required to do in the early 20th century. (I refuse to let women pay for items when I'm around them, open doors, lend them my coat if they're cold, etc)
Not once has a girl rejected the special treatment and wanted to be treated as "one of the guys". You can't have your cake and eat it to, or something.
I can say I'm against feminism in the manner in which I think men and women should have different ways to treat eachother.
Also, true feminism will not succeed for as long as a woman can show her breasts and make 10x the money she would have made if she had an honest occupation.
Ok, finally got back from work.
I take it you haven't served in the military. EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME PAY! Your paying for women to get pregnant, your also paying for guys to get women pregnant. Also, I have not seen a female pregnant soldier yet that just sat on her ass the whole time she was pregnant. They do their work until they are told by a doctor they can't. It's no different from any other job. Hell, by your logic, all federal employees should be male too since we pay for their paychecks with our taxes. Who gives a shit!Quote:
First people say nothing is wrong with women in the military, I show it�s not totally true since it is debatable. Some can not reply to the basic non hidden facts I presented and turn a blind eye. You know you are paying more in taxes, you know things costs more, you know divorce rates are high, you know are paying for women that get present in the military, standards in the military have to be dulled down so that women can do it, books have to present facts or else they will be categorized as non fiction, women in the military are distracting men in the military, etc. It�s all nice and well to see everything as good and equal but people have to see the reality that this does not work.
Second, your making it out to seem that females are not capable of handling the same jobs that men can handle. Or at least are distractions to the men in the military, not allowing them to do their jobs. I think thats bullshit. I work with several females in my unit, and not once does any one of our guys put any less than 100% into their job while they are around. Yeah, you may get the occasional gawking or whatever, but for the most part it's purely platonic.
Third, I personally don't put much word into anything I see put out by the media. Especially american media, due to the fact that it is all centered around getting an unbelievable story. That's all these people care about, is a controversial story. I personally go off of my experiences and those close to me. Even people that supposedly research these issues go in looking for something to prove their view. You can't deny that humans are opinionated bastards. We all are, you can't get a piece of information, whether it be statistics, or article, without the author's opinion getting away. Now, I am not saying that there are no valid points to your argument, but the facts don't represent all females in the military, overall. In fact, it's been my experience and the experience of many people I have met and work with, that they contribute more than they hinder.
So basically what I am saying is, you can pull out these statistics and shit, but more than likely, it has no relevance to what the real situation is.
edit: Also, your 'statistics' appear to be pretty old the armed forces have undergone a MAJOR overhaul in policies since the 80's. Keep up with the times man.
Oh yes. OH YES!Quote:
Originally Posted by MusikFreak00
If I could give reputation to you, I would. But it seems I gave it to you already recently... so let me just say, that that post rocks hardcore. And I believe personal experience is evidence... and it clearly will hold up in a court of law.... speeding tickets and the like are just based on the observations of officers, not some statistics from some book. I'll call your experiences factual evidence, and evidence that I hold in greater esteem than some website that ONLY contains information favoring one side (Even less so, one asking for anonymous military personell to email him 'evidence.' Pfft.). Will jace listen to you and your observations? Maybe, maybe not. But, like I told him, for every one of his stories he's got where units have tons of pregnant women or whatever, we can find people where that is not the case, and you sir are a prime example.
Oh and one more thing, all of your dissent is based off of physical inadequacies of females to males. I agree that females have pitiful standards that they have to uphold. But most of these women feel this way too and exceed these standards by leaps and bounds. Just because they are physically weaker than men on average doesn't mean they are useless. They are doing a fine enough job just as they are.
oh and here's some links you can read too.
http://coelacanth.aug.com/captbarb/
http://www.mith2.umd.edu/WomensStudi...tary/factsheet
you know, for contributions that women have made so far to the military.
my computer must be slow at refreshing posts, thanks for the rep agent smith, its just how i see things
I have too much to say on this issue. Am at school atm, so can't write, but I shall kick someone's ass tonight:P Don't keep your hopes high Skinner, you're not that lucky;)
Chicks are sexy rar :xQuote:
Originally Posted by MusikFreak00
thou really if people have to go on about the physical difference then thats nothing i have seen chicks build like tanks
bah anyway if your in the army dont you use a gun :wacko:
yeah, that's the beauty of the job. Except when you are running through the desert or jungle carrying your wounded buddy in a fireman's carry for 2 1/2 miles. That kinda requires some physical strength :). Although, people have been known to do some amazing things under pressure...
Ah we have a thinker here what about the min weight that you have to carry to get into the army ;) plus the fireman carry evens the weight outQuote:
Originally Posted by MusikFreak00
there is no minimum weight to be able to lift in the army. For females, they have to do 3 push-ups, 17 sit ups, and a mile run in under 10 mins i think before they can go to basic training.
And yeah the fireman's carry does distribute the weight around, but that was just an example carry, more than likely, if you are in a combat situation, and you have to move them out of the area, you will probably be stuck doing some more tactical carries that aren't as easy to pull off. Either way, adding another 175 pounds more or less to your weight already on you still tires you out
LOL you gotta be jokin right i laugh at your army
to get into our you have to carry a backpack that weigh's a set amount ;) and it goes for both male and female