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Originally Posted by vagrant
Don't take this the wrong way or anything like that. I don't want to insult you or anything like that. But, If you were to look up the word Marriage, it says (not too sure) bonding between MAN and WOMEN. It does not say MAN and MAN or WOMEN and WOMEN. I think it should be more like partering not marriage. Trust me, I am not a homophobic. I just think it shouldn't be caled marriage (due to the dictionary), I think it should be more like partnering.
I know what you mean I think the same thing, I admit I was homophobic at first, but then I realized it made no sence but I'm still against the marriage part
Well here's the problem. You have different rights with your partner and such if you are married. However marriage is related to/based on the Christian religion.
Separation of church and state. I don't give a fuck what the bible says or how someone interprets it. If marriage has any legal significance outside of it being a Christian "ritual" as I shall call it, then you can't put some christian morality upon it.
I really need to read the anti-gay stuff in the bible...because I somehow doubt that God's word is telling you to hate eachother...
I don't hate gays, just their marriage rights
Marriage gives them basic fundamental rights a couple should have...nothing to do with Christian Sancticty of marriage...which is total shit in itself. What, more than half of marriage ends in divorce? And lots of abusive marriages? Sanctity of marriage my ass...
Likewise, Xaenn, I have always had a problem with the whole 'it's forbidden in the bible' argument against gay marriage.
It seems a little odd to me that many people are willing to debunk gay marriage due to Christian morality, yet have no problem turning a blind eye to the fact that many of the heterosexual couples that get married are not, in fact, Christian at all. Surely, non-believers being able to get married is just as much a sin as gay couples, since both are (should you believe as such) going to hell when they die? Why, then, is it perfectly acceptable to exclude gay couples from marriage, when they are no more 'sinful' than non-Christian heterosexual couples? Let's face it, marriage isn't simply a Christian thing anymore, it's been adapted into our culture as a way for two people to celebrate their love for one another. There is also, as Xaenn stated, several rights gained by a 'couple' as opposed to 'two people who happen to live together', and to deny people this on account of gender is both stupid and wrong. Don't call it marriage if you really mustn't, but such rights should be attainable, regardless of the gender of those involved.
The angus diet, now there's a diet I can live with. lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by vagrant
note: I know it's not a real diet.
Why should I take it the wrong way...? :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by SJawz3288
Anyway, I already explained the whole society/religion thing in my first post, if you care to read...
About that dictionary issue, the definitions included therein are agreed upon by a consortium consisting of men and women... Likewise, the bible wasn't written by "God", and properly reflects the era in which it was written...
People had no tolerance back then and, if I remember correctly, the solution to everything was a good stone-throwing marathon... Don't quite remember who posted that little bit, either Jimmy or KON... Kudos to him... :)
Nicely put! ^_^ However I don't regard that as Christian morality. Maybe only the morality of fundamentalists. However that I am not, but i am a Christian. Basically if you never evolve off of that basic concept, your faith will never evolve either...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elin
On the note of religion... why is god never depicted as black or a woman or gay?
I think to be fair to political correctness, god should sometimes be depicted as a black lesbian.
WTF OMG!!11!!!ONESHIFT+1
Now that I got that out of me
I believe this is where a new person on the net tries to sound hardcore "pwned". Okay so I was making fun of people saying marriage means married to the opposite sex and people who use stupid words such as the one in the beggining of my post and in the quotation marks. Enjoy (:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webster
On the side note this is god. http://www.csps.minx.co.uk/epiimgs/411/god1.gif
Can a mod close this thread, It's been an off topic pile of crap for a while.
Once again proving I win :P
I don't see what the big deal is. If two people want to get married, the only thing that should stand in their way should be if one of them is currently married to someone else. That is it.
There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, just as there is nothing wrong with being heterosexual. As someone said earlier, everything is reflected by the era that we live in. And you can't go by what the dictionary says for a definition, 'cause those change as the eras go on as well. Many things in Shakespearan times don't mean the same as they did. I'm too lazy to dig up any examples, but go through a copy of <b>Hamlet</b> and you'll see what I mean.
It's not off-topic, it's shifted topics. It's still within the same guidelines, only now we're getting into the whole "gay marriage" thing, which I believe was originally posted by you as well as saying how you didn't want them to be married. Or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
If it gets too bad, with some of the people further being idiots with their "owned" posts, then I'll close it. Until then, I want to hear some more opinions. Or if another mod feels that it should be closed, then it'll be closed.
yah your right =)
No dude. In Jamaica, it is seriously almost legal to killl a homosexual as it is nearly against the law. Seriously. That's where the reggae lyrics are from. I'm not too sure about the rap verses but that's the reggae side.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
And as far as gay marriage, let them. I've said it before.
i guess, IMO, it doesn't matter to me if gays wanna get married. they have as much right to get married as straights do. isn't it kinda stupid to take away rights from gay people that are perfectly fine for straights? and marriage in a whole isn't very good either. i don't practice any sort of religion thankfully and i don't think marriage is a sacred thing. not at all. especially in this country. where people marry for money or other things. but then they have the right to marry for whatever reasons if they want to right? because they're straight and they can. hell, michael jackson got married! that's how sacred marriage is.
Isn't murder always against the law? :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by GFX.
legal and against the law don't miss GFX :P. I am willing to bet that you meant illegal in that post right :D
Apparently they cancel each other out... :wacko:
You've got me...:)
Dude the bible doesnt agree wit alot of things and they dont really get married becuase most of the states dont view it as legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
Now i dont care what they do its there life as long as it doesnt effect me
Nope. Homosexuality is frowned upon quite violently down there. QUITE violently. It is nearly legal to kill a gay guy down there. So alot of people follow the "Don't ask, don't tell" mentality the US army has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxhound
That is what confused me here :P. Now that we got that solved scooby and the gang can go solve another mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by GFX.
Oh so because of what your bible says, its wrong to be gay. So they should be denied a simple human right? And no, we dont notice, because we aren't that concerned with what gay people do, its their business, it doesn't effect you. So take your bible elsewhere. Oh and go tell a mod, no one likes you anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
I warned you Fury you idiot, if you don't like me ignore me and don't come to my thread F***** freak.
And now you've been reposted and i'm putting you on my ignore list. I have no time to waste on idiots with dumb names like fury
I've pissed 1 person off today. I'm proud.
You in the closet Pika?Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
I seriously suggest you get yourself to anger management classes, and also perhaps put some of your energies into something worthwhile other than hatred.
Nice work btw Fury, you've done IMO nothing wrong with your posts.
I have no problems with angry, when I'm attacked I fight back
Dont get to mad and take ur anger out on the gays or else you will have to hurt ur self :P
you guys have no reason to pick on me
Yea You are right sorry man.
I'm eating carrots.
And you have no reason to pick on gay people. Wait, i'm on ignore so you wont see this post, but...i'm making it for posterity purposes. Oh CCDART, carrots are awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by pika
Just becuase he is picking in gays dont mean u gotta be a super uber jack ass about it inless you are gay or course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fury
idiots with stupid names? lol yeah. way to go mr. call yourself after a pokemon.
Ok really Stop being such a dick to him.
thanks Vivi
Yea anytime.. Now if i were them i would Apologize for there actions like i did before.
becuase there is really no need for all this nonsense in these boards.
I'm being a super uber jackass because i dont appreciate, biggotry, hes made 2 topics that are anti gay. He pulls lame stuff like this all the time, I've been around long enough to know. If i were gay would it matter? No i will not apologize, i stand by everything i said. This thread was doomed from the start, looks like its closing will be imminent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Vivi