If he's sold to an American, who was caught in America, the American gov't has the right to extradite him to face the charges. It's called jurisdition.
If he's sold to an American, who was caught in America, the American gov't has the right to extradite him to face the charges. It's called jurisdition.
You're right, but it was over the internet which is the big controversy. The way it's working out is basically like the gov't saying they own the internet and can control all activity on it. :shrug: NET NEUTRALITY I SAY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheezymadman
The internet part just makes it easier for them to prosecute him. If the buyer doesn't have to come get it, the seller gets "shipping over national/state borders" too. Case closed.
Yeah, well I guess that shows what "Freedom" we have sometimes. Though, would it not be the same if it was anything illegal, like murderous activity? If they find illegal things anywhere, even on the internet, they have then have probable cause or warrant to check it out if they find suspecious activity, right?
Pot IS illegal, that's the thing. It's not hard to trace an internet sale, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by mydyingautumn
The charges are "for trafficking in marijuana seeds, for the production of marijuana, and for money laundering."Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheezymadman
You've explained the first, but the second two? The only justification for the money laundering thing seems to be "He's earned 5 million dollars in sales he no longer has" (the guy spends an assload of money on drug legalization activism, and, you know, running a business, he's done his taxes and reported 100% of his profits to the Canadian government and listed his job as "Marijuana seed dealer" since day one on his tax forms) and "these horrible stains on society drug dealers ALWAYS launder money, haven't you ever watched Miami Vice!?"
Production of marijuana, something legal for this guy where he where he is a citizen, is just completely bullshit.
Production may be legal in Canada, but it's NOT LEGAL HERE. That's the thing. As soon as you cross into another country's jurisdiction, they can charge you with whatever is illegal for them. And as soon as he started selling to AMericans, that's when he crossed into our jurisdiction.
As for the money laundering, I have no idea. I haven't read the article.
However, he never committed the second crime in America; thus, they do not have the proper jurisdiction to charge him on it. They can probably get him on the first charge, trafficking, because he did conduct a sale that crossed into American jurisdiction, but if he has never produced a single plant in America, he can't be charged for that. Well, he can be charged (though that whole reasonable cause is a bit of a problem, since he's never been physically in America), but it's quite unlikely it'll stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheezymadman
Its not like we haven't done this before.
EDIT: Besides, if he went to the US and sold pot here, then he's broken the law here, thus he'll be tried here. The same thing could happen if his business partners were the ones bringing it to the US. ANOTHER SCENARIO: He's being framed because he slept with some big-shot's daughter. Its happened before.
That's not exactly the same thing :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Hammer
You mean Canada isn't a banana republic run by a drug cartel? Curses, and here I thought we could just send the boys across the border for a quick invasion, set up a new democratic government, beat up some embassy with Van Halen, and haul back home for a good ol' fashioned show trial. :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by Panda Man
He didn't come to the US, he shipped the items across the border. Which means they can't get him on possession (because he never had it in any jurisdiction where that's a crime), they can't get him on dealing (again, it never took place in their jurisdiction. The site is located in Canada, so it's more akin to the buyer crossing the border to get some) and they can't get him on money laundering (again, not in their jurisdiction. It'd be up to the Canadians to go after that, and apparently his tax records are legit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Hammer
They can only get him on trafficking across the border and since Canada doesn't usually extradite on non-violent charges, I doubt he'll actually be handed over. They may well do so, but I wouldn't rely on it.
Weed is NOT legal in Canada. We have some decriminalization of it though. But we have grow ops being busted all the time. Please stop saying it's legal like it was Amsterdam or something, it's pissing me off. And I also sense alot of ignorance to Canada as well. Why is it we know more about other countries, but Americans don't. This guy won't be going anywhere. It's about time American policy makers stop sticking there oily noses in other countries. Sorry if this is a little rough I'm already in a bad fucking mood:ugh:
He ran a website out of his store in Ontario, he never entered the US, just took American customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Hammer
Someday, America will be as great a nation as Canada. I, as an American, NEED to believe this. Otherwise I'll have to expatriate.
Now it would be REALLY great if someday America could be as great as Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Smoke that info hash.