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The only happy ending of Nier is in the artbook, and even that is a maybe. :wacko:

Wait, how was ending B more depressing than ending A?

Spoiler warning:

Everyone favorite bro Emil is alive! Without a body. I mean sure, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME AND FUCKED, but he's alive, so...yay?

I think I just saw something really epic at EVO.

Jesus Christ, what happened.

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Originally Posted by Raype

Well it's good to see you're enjoying it. Shame the developer went belly up, but at least more people now realize they went out with quite a bang.

A distaste for happy endings is a good thing in this case. Because it gets more depressing. Ending A is arguably the happiest point. I personally consider it the happier ending, since you can stop at that point and feel, at least somewhat, that things ended well. B and C (especially with the perspective shift that happens after clearing A from Nier to "sorta omnipotent, but also sorta from Kaine's perspective" in BCD) are just "let's make things WORSE". D is, at best, horrendously bittersweet and extensively depressing once you start to think about it more. Which, sadly, a lot of the endings suffer from. The more you think about how it ended, the more depressing it gets.

The sidequests provide a pretty good distraction and some decent plot stuff. One of them from part I was also quite hilarious because of how horribly Nier just fucked up. Also, consider getting started on growing Lunar Tears. That sidequest takes a while. Lots of moonflower cross pollination occurs.

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If I'm remembering correctly, the only thing that prevented me from picking it up sooner (the last time I was thinking about getting it) was that I wasn't too sure about picking up more than one or two games that were more action oriented at the same time. I'm pretty sure I picked up Castlevania instead, which I had to force myself through and which I haven't touched since. I obviously made a slight error in my judgement at the time.

From the way the endings turned out in Drakengard, I'm not terribly surprised that they get progressively worse. Although those endings went more from "worse" to "WTF?!" rather than "better" to "worse."

Although my character's name sort of ruined a tiny bit of the poignancy of Ending A.

Who do I love more than anyone else?
"Milady~" :wacko:

Oh god, I want to click the spoiler, but I don't want to.

:ahhh:

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Originally Posted by Drageuth

So, Neir.

What's that one about now?

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The year is 2049. A man (Nier) is protecting his daughter (Yonah) and has ducked into what appears to be an abandoned shop in a post apocalyptic city. Despite it being summer, snow is falling (well, not really, but it looks like snow). He angrily kicks a book away and forbids his daughter from touching it. The place quickly gets overrun by shades (they look like glowing mounds of weird letters) and Nier touches the book, and is suddenly granted magical powers to fight the shades. He succeeds, but upon returning to Yonah notices that she touched the book and is now covered in weird black text.

Fast forward ~1300 years. The world now looks like a fantasy setting with bits of what appears to be 21st century architecture dotting the landscape. Nothing "sci-fi", but closer to the sort of thing you'd see today.

Another guy with the same name/appearance is working as an adventurer in a small town to support his sick daughter Yonah. Stuff happens and it turns out she's suffering from what appears to be the same condition as the previous Yonah, a disease known as the Black Scrawl. This disease is extremely widespread and is killing a lot of people. He comes into possession of a smartmouthed book with a bad case of amnesia named Weiss (although it prefers to be called a "Grimoire"). They end up finding out that the world ended up in it's current state due to a "black disease" and there were two Grimoires involved, a white one and a black one. They figure Weiss is this grimoire and is able to stop the Black Scrawl and eventually destroy Grimoire Noir, the root of the disease.

So they set off on a series of adventures to find and destroy this book. Along the way fighting a bunch of bosses to "power up" and recruiting a rather...interesting party.

Yeah, it sounds like a pretty typical plot. But it gets more complicated and shifts into some pretty dark territory along the way. And then it just keeps getting worse.

It's also a sequel of sorts to Drakengard's "joke ending". No, really.

Goddamned defenders.

Please jump so we don't get scored with halfassed headers.

Signed, the fucking manager.

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Originally Posted by Raype

It's also a sequel of sorts to Drakengard's "joke ending". No, really.

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I would have been so, so angry if I actually did get around to collecting all those weapons just to see that ending. :disagree:

And I got a tie goal at 90'.

Fuck you guys.

Now I feel like checking it Nier out. But then again a friend of me who has almost the same tastes in game like me (except FIFA and my delight of shootanz) completely loathed it, so I'm in the fence about it.

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

The only happy ending of Nier is in the artbook, and even that is a maybe. :wacko:

Wait, how was ending B more depressing than ending A?

Spoiler warning:

Everyone favorite bro Emil is alive! Without a body. I mean sure, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME AND FUCKED, but he's alive, so...yay?

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Because B route is when you start seeing things from another POV. All I have to say is BEEPY ;_;

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the ending makes it completely explicit that the Shadowlord is Nier, and he's quite depressed over failing his Yonah. Those last shots we get of the two of them, with a visibly distraught Shadowlord was kind of a downer. Especially after hearing him talk for the first time moments before. As for the Emil bit he never meets the others again. He ends up wandering the lifeless husk of a world forever. And since he's practically immortal, he's kind of boned. It seems like a bit of a shitty fate to meet. Alone. Watching the last remnants of your society crumble to dust. FOREVER.

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Originally Posted by Milady

If I'm remembering correctly, the only thing that prevented me from picking it up sooner (the last time I was thinking about getting it) was that I wasn't too sure about picking up more than one or two games that were more action oriented at the same time. I'm pretty sure I picked up Castlevania instead, which I had to force myself through and which I haven't touched since. I obviously made a slight error in my judgement at the time.

From the way the endings turned out in Drakengard, I'm not terribly surprised that they get progressively worse. Although those endings went more from "worse" to "WTF?!" rather than "better" to "worse."

Although my character's name sort of ruined a tiny bit of the poignancy of Ending A.

Who do I love more than anyone else?
"Milady~" :wacko:

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*big burly barbarian dude named Milady*

This should not amuse me half as much as it does.

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Originally Posted by Milady

Oh god, I want to click the spoiler, but I don't want to.

:ahhh:

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He's just pointing out what happens after the credits of ending B. Once you see that, you'll know what he's referring to. It's not hard to miss.

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Originally Posted by Raype

*big burly barbarian dude named Milady*

This should not amuse me half as much as it does.

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With the tilde and everything. :sweat:

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Originally Posted by Milady

I would have been so, so angry if I actually did get around to collecting all those weapons just to see that ending. :disagree:

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Still, that boss fight is pretty cool and kind of makes up for it.

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Originally Posted by Fer!

Now I feel like checking it Nier out. But then again a friend of me who has almost the same tastes in game like me (except FIFA and my delight of shootanz) completely loathed it, so I'm in the fence about it.

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I guess an easy way to put it is "incredibly dark Zelda with more plot".

If that sounds enjoyable, you could do worse than picking this up.

Weiss is the greatest Navi of all time. Fuck your Midna.

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Originally Posted by Milady

With the tilde and everything. :sweat:

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It'd be fun to have a name with a tilde in it.

It'd always fuck with people.

Some wouldn't know how to pronounce it.

And no one could every yell at you, because saying a name with a tilde makes it impossible to stay mad.

You'd be a real hit with employers. :wacko:

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Originally Posted by Raype

Still, that boss fight is pretty cool and kind of makes up for it.

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The last 10-20 seconds of that must have been horribly frustrating to memorize. :lol

I forgot Angelus flies like she's trying to keep from falling asleep.

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Originally Posted by Raype

Because B route is when you start seeing things from another POV. All I have to say is BEEPY ;_;

Also:

the ending makes it completely explicit that the Shadowlord is Nier, and he's quite depressed over failing his Yonah. Those last shots we get of the two of them, with a visibly distraught Shadowlord was kind of a downer. Especially after hearing him talk for the first time moments before. As for the Emil bit he never meets the others again. He ends up wandering the lifeless husk of a world forever. And since he's practically immortal, he's kind of boned. It seems like a bit of a shitty fate to meet. Alone. Watching the last remnants of your society crumble to dust. FOREVER.

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Hidden needs a hotkey or something.

I knew the first part clearly because I'M SO AMAZING. And to be fair, it's not stated anywhere that he never sees them again. The explosion probably just blew him into a desert. Granted, he's probably not seeing them anytime soon considering he has to roll his way home. Hell, he MIGHT make it back before they all die and then the world becomes a dead lifeless husk because Replicant Nier killed Gestalt Nier, the dude who kept the world from falling apart and is technically responsible for people with souls being bor-no wait, Cavia, he's boned.

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So, lets all hope they pull off the saving the world thing they can do in ending D, shall we? :wacko: